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Post by Kirk on Feb 28, 2012 22:39:01 GMT -5
Is there anyone else that wants out of the league? We are just over half-way. Hank and Jeff M quit today. Incredible. Anyone else?
There are plenty of people in the league to leave a "short list" with. I have changed jobs and don't have access anymore from 630am until 330pm. But I have text and still can contact people. I have given everyone my phone #. If someone gives me a list, I forward them to Nick so 1 of us can make the pick for the owner to keep this moving. Saturday we were averaging just over 9 picks per day to get done. That is better than the 12+ needed a couple weeks ago.
A top ranked player from the Yahoo ranking list will be used until another owner(s) is found.
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Post by heather on Feb 29, 2012 12:28:28 GMT -5
Maybe those teams should just be merged back into the league and go with a 16 team or 18 team depending on if more teams leave.
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David
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Post by David on Feb 29, 2012 12:37:20 GMT -5
^I wouldn't mind that, except we still wouldn't be able to throw the players on those teams back into the leagues since it would give too much of an advantage to whoever gets first pick on them.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Feb 29, 2012 12:46:59 GMT -5
Maybe contract the teams after the draft and then have like a 3 or 4 round draft in inverse order of this draft. Make this draft only 24 rounds and then the last 3 rounds with players from the contracted teams.
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Post by nick on Feb 29, 2012 13:48:00 GMT -5
(3) Pujols, Albert (LAA - 1B) (8) Cano, Robinson (NYY - 2B) (46) Rodriguez, Alex (NYY - 3B) (33) Zimmerman, Ryan (Was - 3B) (111) Gardner, Brett (NYY - OF) (83) McCann, Brian (Atl - C) (426) Nova, Ivan (NYY - SP) (139) Carpenter, Chris (StL - SP) (118) Gonzalez, Gio (Was - SP) (86) Berkman, Lance (StL - 1B,OF) (301) Martin, Russell (NYY - C) (67) Bourn, Michael (Atl - OF) (134) Hardy, J.J. (Bal - SS) (78) Axford, John (Mil - RP) (76) Rivera, Mariano (NYY - RP) (200) Willingham, Josh (Min - OF) (133) Valverde, Jose (Det - RP) (169) De Aza, Alejandro (CWS - OF) (186) Scherzer, Max (Det - SP) (312) Collmenter, Josh (Ari - SP,RP) (195) Jackson, Austin (Det - OF) (369) Parker, Jarrod (Oak - SP) (138) Cabrera, Melky (SF - OF) (176) Duda, Lucas (NYM - 1B,OF) (257) Capps, Matt (Min - RP) (194) Joyce, Matt (TB - OF) (144) Bourjos, Peter (LAA - OF) (180) Desmond, Ian (Was - SS) (204) Johnson, Kelly (Tor - 2B)
That is the list of players currently available from those two teams in the order they were selected. Having a draft from their players seems unfair to me any way you split it.
If I get the first pick, I'll have 2 of the top 3 players in the draft. If Joe gets the first pick he will have 3 of the top 21 players in the draft. I don't agree with either outcome.
I initially thought this was a good idea until I did the math. The only fair way to continue with contracting teams is to start the draft over again. Which would give us about 30 days to pick 27 rounds. Or try to bite the bullet and somehow hold a live draft.
Or...
We can continue to fill these teams with other owners hoping that nobody else will drop out.
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Post by Ronny on Feb 29, 2012 13:53:02 GMT -5
I say undo Jeffs 15 th pick and skip Jeff and Hank here out and after the draft contract to 18 teams. Place all the picks taken 200 or after back into the regular draft pool. Then have a special auction draft where we start with 25 salary cap dollars and do an auction draft for the players taken before pick 200. List the player name in chat and everyone bids (upto salary cap levels) ON THE PLAYERS. There are 21 players on this list below pick 200 so everyone whould have a shot at some with an auction.
Auction example: I bid 5 dollars on Pujols and if I am not out bid I win Pujols and have $20 left and so on. If multiple people max bid ($25) one player then those owners are involved in a lotery but won't be eligible to bid on the others in the pool as a price for max bidding. If I bid $10 you bid $15 and I max bid $25 you can match max bid and send it to a lottery. If neither player withdraws max bid (max bid can only be $25 and not just all you have left) then they leave it to lottery but the price is still teh same for all max bids $25. This stops everyone from max bidding all crazy on Pujols and Canoe untill they get the best player on the board. This auction draft should run concurant with the snake draft currently in motion.
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Alex
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Post by Alex on Feb 29, 2012 15:00:46 GMT -5
I like the $25 bidding thing, but whoever max bids and doesn't win the lottery should be able to go back into the draft with the money that they had before they max bid
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Post by emmar7979 on Feb 29, 2012 15:15:10 GMT -5
I like the idea of contracting and somehow dispersing the players from the contracted team. I think we have a solid group of guys left here now. If we bring in new owners, they might be fly by night. I think we've weeded out the flimsy owners and are now left with the serious guys.
I also just want to say that we have had some trials and tribulations so far, but that is to be expected with trying to get a league off the ground. I'm still confident that this will work and that will have a lot of fun!
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Post by shoelessjoe on Feb 29, 2012 19:59:58 GMT -5
Lets go to 18 or 16 teams and re-draft...there is no way an auction is gonna work...everbody will max on Pujols !! We have a good group, like Kirk said...If everyone is on board it will go quick ...even if we don't make the first week of season...this is a keeper - dynasty league..!! By the way Andre nice pick on Paxston... I thought I had him with my next pick..damn...
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Post by grumpy1 on Feb 29, 2012 20:04:31 GMT -5
I do not want to re-draft. I love my team - and don't want to lose any players! I'm not sure what the answer is for dispersing players, however. I think the option I like best so far is to do a reverse draft... but that really gives the later teams a big advantage! But I'd rather lose out on a player than start over. WAY too much time has been invested to not use the current picks.
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Post by emmar7979 on Feb 29, 2012 20:53:48 GMT -5
Yeah I don't wanna redraft either, I like my team. I think we have to have some dispersal option.
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Post by Lyle on Feb 29, 2012 21:26:34 GMT -5
How about we just find replacements. And I think some of the guys we've lost WERE solid and dedicated they just grew tired though of waiting 8 or 9 hrs for people to pick. Once the draft is done then I think the league would be good and one of those two teams I would be willing to trade mine for so it's not like the rosters are bad to inherit.
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Post by emmar7979 on Feb 29, 2012 21:37:02 GMT -5
I just don't understand the concept of growing tired of waiting 8 or 9 hours to pick. This is a slow draft. That's what we all signed up for. Yes, it would be nice if things moved faster at times, but we are all the way up to round 15 and it's still February!!! A solid owner wouldn't sign up for a draft that clearly has a rule of 12 hours between picks, then bitch and threaten to quit about the way it was playing out. I wonder why everybody here didn't just get involved with a league that had a live draft so they could have picked their whole damn team in an hour and a half. I guess I'm on the other extreme, I'm getting awfully tired of all the complaining about how slow this is going. It's February!!!! It's a slow draft!!!!
Sorry, just felt like I needed to get this all out.
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Post by genesis809 on Feb 29, 2012 21:48:18 GMT -5
im up for going to a 18 team league and working out some kind of draft or auction for the 2 teams players. i don't mind the whole draft concept but a few fast draft days would be nice too
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Post by heather on Feb 29, 2012 21:55:31 GMT -5
Well that got alot of attention didn't it. Lol How about this as a solution to the problem: Drop them from the draft while we finish it then do a blind bid with next years draft picks.
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Lyle
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Post by Lyle on Feb 29, 2012 22:04:48 GMT -5
There is no "fair" way to distribute the top caliber players that these teams leave available. These players will need to be voided throughout the entire season and next year throw them back into the draft and let the worst team pick first and so on...
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Alex
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Post by Alex on Feb 29, 2012 22:55:11 GMT -5
I trust Kirk and Nick to make the right decision, and I just want to say that if it does come down to redrafting we'll have to do a regularly timed draft on Yahoo. I'm also up for drafting if need be. I like my team a lot but I also love doing drafts so I'll draft again. Other than doing a new draft I think we'd have to void the players like Lyle said and figure out something for next season.
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Post by grumpy1 on Mar 1, 2012 6:33:56 GMT -5
There is no "fair" way to distribute the top caliber players that these teams leave available. These players will need to be voided throughout the entire season and next year throw them back into the draft and let the worst team pick first and so on... If we can't/don't want replacement managers, I agree with Lyle's plan.
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Post by powerman on Mar 1, 2012 10:33:17 GMT -5
we got one replacement manager already. everybody, please be patient. we are being put through the fire, being refined and made better. the end result will be a solid group, and that's what we all want, right? so we are going through growing pains, anything worth having is worth working for. we are all working for this right now, let's keep it going.
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Post by Kirk on Mar 1, 2012 22:10:18 GMT -5
well said.
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